It's one of the things I do when I'm starting a Movie is I'm not like a starting movie when I'm thinking about writing a film when I have like an idea for a film Is what I'll do is I'll go through my record collection and just start playing songs Trying to like basically I guess in some ways find the personality of the movie find the the spirit of the movie and And then boom eventually like I'll hit like one two three songs that like, you know, you know one song in particular oh, this would be a great opening credit song, you know, because to me the opening credits are very Very important because that's sort of like you're that's like you're it's like the only like mood time that most movies give themselves you know and like, you know a Cool credit sequence and they're like with that and the music that plays in front of it, you know Or don't play any music in front of it you know, whatever you decide to do that sets up like a tone for the movie that that is important for you and And so that's you know, so I'm always trying to find Like what the right opening credit or closing credit sequence should be, you know early on when I'm just even thinking about the story Because once I find it that really kind of triggers me in To what the personality of this piece should be what the rhythm of this piece should be like I'm saying You don't have to use music. It could just be silence. All right all right, and but then that's important that is like kind of in some ways like the rhythm and And more or less the personality you're trying to project in this film having mr. Liu is your opening credits It's just so intense. You know, it just says you're watching an epic. You're watching this big old movie Just sit back as you know, I mean because it's so loud and blaring at you, you know It's just like actually it Throws down a gauntlet that the movie now has to live up to because it's just saying we're big I love person and I love kung fu movies, you know All right, you know and I mean there is a difference between the two of them, but I appreciate them both for what they do you know and It's the same thing with with with musics I Also, I think growing growing up in the 70s gives you appreciation for Certain music that came out in the 70s that nobody else on the planet has appreciation for unless you grew up listening to it You know And it's and it's not like oh, it's so bad. It's good. No, I love little Willie I think the sweets little Willie is a great song. All right, you know, I would listen to that again and make no apologies For it whatsoever. That's a cool cool song. All right But it's like, you know people who can't you know, you know people from the generation before don't appreciate it You know, oh, yeah, we had the 60s and we had this and we had that and just like wrote down everything as junk And this is well we grew up with it. So we like it a lot, you know And again, I really don't come from the attitude of like oh, it's so cheesy that I like it No, I like it. Okay, I think it's good. All right, you know so You know, so there definitely is you know, is that flowing around there? But like first like jungle boogie is like that's not like a novelty record. That's like a That's like an intense like rhythm and blues instrumental man. That is like that's a cool song Pulp Fiction is different from dogs and so far as like in the case of reservoir dogs Every piece of music in the movie was source music You know something turn on the radio you heard something, you know, somebody did, you know It was always like it was like, you know set up in the scene In the case of Pope I actually use score. All right, but in this case what I did was all the you know all the surf music in The movie. I mean a lot of it is used as score when John Travolta is driving and that there's that little heroin montage You know, you know, that's score music He's not listening to the radio, you know And you hear it throughout the film and the reason I did that was I always really dug surf music a lot All right, but the thing is I never quite understood what the hell it had to do with surfing I mean, you know, I don't I don't see the connection between this music and surfing I always like to me. It sounded like like rock-and-roll spaghetti Western music what I don't want to do is And I've seen it happen a lot of movies is where they just Turn up the soundtrack. All right to Create a false energy or in particularly to create like, you know a sense of period that they're not investing in the picture All right. Okay. It's the 60s. We'll play a lot of 60 songs and that will create the period. All right to me that's cheap and it's annoying and Like listening to the radio and and watching them watching a movie at the same time they don't really go together and it's and it's just like a it just seems cheap to me and I'm really I try to avoid that. I really want the songs That I'm using in the movie, you know, like in the case of the Maria McKee or in the case of the Al Green Let's stay together or in the case of any of them To like, you know really kind of work in the crux of the scene All right. I mean like for instance like the Al Green song playing in the scene with Bruce Willis the way it does I mean that's almost like that's almost like a hypnotic score The way that plays and just like you because like the majority of the song plays as you're just staring at this like long take Of Bruce Willis listening to somebody off-screen. The music was tied into I mean it was it was serving two functions one it actually, you know, it all had to be 70s because it was working from a you know to sing of there was a 70s radio station and to the music was supposed to be reacting as somewhat of an Ironic counterpoint. All right, you know to what you were seeing on the screen So, you know, that's why I went on my way to get bubblegum songs, you know I didn't have Led Zeppelin Marvin Gaye's what's going on playing, you know, I was like I wanted you know you know the 1910 fruit gun company, you know, I you know, I wanted that kind of stuff and You know, you know love grows from my rosemary goes I didn't use that but like that style of songs as a comic, you know as a ironic counterpoint Well here I'm not really trying to do that. I'm actually trying to find songs that Like, you know kind of work more in harmony with what you're seeing, you know, and And it just kind of ended up being all over the map. I mean, you know, there is 70 stuff, you know, you play Al Green in there and you know, you you play cool in the gangs jungle boogie you know, you've definitely got a 70s feel same thing with a You know Dusty Springfield that sequence in the movie, you know, basically the scene of a guy going to a house To pick up a date and like, you know, and he's just waiting for All right, and there's all this like tension, you know, he's heard a lot about her But he hasn't met her yet And she's talking to him on this intercom and leave the note on the door saying just let yourself in So you're like waiting for her first appearance and he's kind of like, you know apprehensive about it That whole idea for a story I've had in my head for like, you know, six or seven years That sequence and it always was scored to son of a preacher man The movies all over the map, you know The movie uses a bunch of different styles in order to kind of tell it's three stories about one story It's constantly switching gears. It has like a it has an overdrive gear. It has a Cruise control, you know, and it has a first and a second and third all throughout all the way through the movie, you know You know, the movie doesn't move like a bullet. I don't want it to move like a bullet I mean I want it to move like a bullet when it's supposed to and the other times I wanted to just kind of Like, you know, uh, you know, uh, you just kind of like you just kind of hang out for a while You know, and then when it moves like a bullet it moves it's even you know, it's a real bullet I think it moves even faster So, you know, that's the whole rhythm of the movie and the music is very important in that regards I think it really helps me create that rhythm. All right, we're you know, we're really trying to make it like, you know Fun and neat and and and and not just a collection of songs You know kind of give it a kind of a personality like this own like little mini offshoot of the movie where you get like pieces of dialogue and and hopefully the dialogue is witty enough and it's interesting enough that you Can fully hear it out of context and just enjoy it for that Even before the soundtrack thing when you're just talking about some of the music from the movie there's always you know, there's always a little bit of discussion about Well, you know Quentin this band really loves you and they would do a song All right, and if we got a song of theirs on the soundtrack, oh my god, you know And then when we go out to sell the soundtrack Oh, we could get this much of an advance if we had a song like that. All right, but never bad pressure But it's just like look Quentin now that's out there Know what's out there and boy would it be so great if you decided to do it? Alright part of my problem though with that is the fact that just it's the same exact problem I have with a score is I'm a little nervous about Having a band write a song for me. All right, because I might not like it You know and what if I don't like it, you know, then I'm stuck, you know, then either You know, I mean, I probably wouldn't use it But then I got to tell them I don't want to use it and then I've hurt their feelings, you know And it's like, you know, I just feel weird about that And so it's like, you know when there was a thought of like is there one? You know, is there one like new song that we could put on there that you know? That you would like, you know, and you know, there's over kills in your song, but I that was not a problem I knew I wanted that but then I'm a big Maria McKee fan If you do it, right If you use the right song in the right scene and it just because I mean really when you take songs and Put them in in a sequence in a movie, right? It's about as cinematic a thing as you can do I mean it really you're really doing what movies do better than any other art form, you know I mean, it really works in this visceral emotional Cinematic, you know way that's just like special I mean, it's just really really special and when you do it, right and you hit it, right? Then the effect is you can never really hear that song again without kind of thinking about that image from the movie All right I mean you are just such a poser and such a lame-o All right, like, you know for using a song that another movie is already kind of like, you know christened All right, you know, it's like I mean, I mean they do stand by me so many times but to me The one that you stand by me the way is in the Wanderers, you know They're playing stand by me as the Lead character Ken wall realizes that like JFK's been shot and it's perfect You know all those other even stand by me. All right is our posers by that I mean you can't use stand by me after the Wanderers. All right. I mean when dirty dancing used to be my baby. It's like That is the opening theme to mean streets. Excuse me. All right, you know, I mean like, you know How can you use be my I mean I see whenever I hear be my baby I see Harvey could tell leaning back on his pillow at one point. I thought about using my Sharona For the sodomy rape sequence because you know, my Sharona has a really good Sodomy beat to it. If you think about it, you know Sharona okay, you know it like, you know, it's has that, you know, I could you know set the time by that so, um I thought hey, that'd be really cool to use it. It just it just seems so funny to me I was like, oh god, this is just too funny not to use. All right, and so we tried to try to get them and Apparently part of the band was for it But there was like one of the band has become a born-again Christian or something. He just wasn't for and he just Interested, you know and like a whole guy did Reservoir dogs. Oh, oh, yeah, please. Let me give you my song. All right, you know, yeah That's what we got is my Sharona. No, you're gonna screw it up and everybody's mind. Okay, great and at the time Reality Bites wanted to use it and we'll go with them. Thank you very much. And and The thing is I mean ultimately I'm glad ultimately I'm glad because that would have made that it would have it would have been too cute It would have been too cutely comic, you know I like using the stuff for comic things, but I don't want it to be har har wink wink nudge nudge You know and that kind of would have bordered on that, you know, so, you know Comanche still works the same It's kind of funny actually, but it but it doesn't break the scene The Statler brothers is one of the major uses of a song that wasn't my idea That was my music supervisor Karen Ackman's idea Karen just kept like, you know giving me different tapes and you know for every like five new songs She'd put an old song on there and there was just like once I Yeah, the Staller brother that's great man I could see I could see Bruce singing that song Yeah, that would be really good. That would be terrific. You know, and then I told the Bruce but oh god, I love it Oh, that's terrific. I love that song. I wrote overkill doing a Neil Diamond's girl. You'll be a woman soon. That's a great song I mean, we didn't say hey, let's go out and get a remake song. All right, let's just do a remake All right It was like that's I wanted to use that piece of music like again from before since you know when I was writing the film All right. I heard their version of that song and I was like, oh, I want to plug that into the movie that's a perfect song for me to dance to and I'm right it is a perfect song for me to dance to and this is like in the You know the pre-production stage of pulp and I had a little bit like six different songs. I was moving back and forth I've changed my mind all the time on the Mia dance number sequence, you know Sometimes I thought about like the Collins kids would be great for that I thought about all these different things and then I play then I played this and police this this or overkill Whatever, they're called the mini LPs or whatever. I played it and they had The first one on there was a remake of girl You'll be a woman soon and some people I know know them and they said oh they just adore Neil Diamond They just love Neil done. Well, I love Neil Diamond too. All right, and so like, you know, uh, um, I heard uh, I heard their version of it and it was great now I have always loved Neil Diamond's version that song and their version is even better. All right, and all of a sudden it's like This is it. This is it without a doubt beyond a shadow of a doubt This is the song that Mia has to dance to by herself. I played it for Uma Uma Flipped. All right. Yes, you're right. You're right. This is great. This is fantastic. I completely agree, you know, and So it was great And so that was like, you know That was you know, it was one of those things where like I was in love with about like four or five Songs, I could have used any one of them and I kept flip-flopping, you know But then like then I found my true love. I mean when people ask me like, you know, what kinds of Music do you listen to I really never know what to say, you know I Listen to a whole lots of types of music, you know And and I always feel somewhat resentful if I have to like start like narrowing it down because well That kind of says something about me and that's not really the whole story, you know I mean if I say well, I really you know, I really like folk music a lot I really like listening to folk music. All right. Well, I do all right, but I like listening to all kinds and and and and and like you might You know make some personality makeup by me saying that that I don't think is necessarily not that it's a bad personality Makeup, but I don't think it's necessarily representative of Me. Yeah, I mean you want you I'm enjoying I mean, you know, it's like, you know, so I always feel kind of weird you know trying to Narrow it down, you know, that's the same thing for you to me, you know It's the same thing about like how I feel about movies, you know I mean, I like all kinds of movies and it's kind of all over the board. I make tapes I make tapes for friends of mine, you know And I make like special tapes for special friends and and this has that that feeling about it I could you know, I could this could easily be a Quentin tape